tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post7144264256486061224..comments2024-03-08T08:27:22.346+01:00Comments on Easy Croatian: 06 DestinationsDaniel N.http://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-14852402649687646872023-08-19T14:31:34.686+02:002023-08-19T14:31:34.686+02:00I'm open to all suggestions. If you have some ...I'm open to all suggestions. If you have some everyday words you can find here, just list them in a comment and I'll try to include them somewhere<br /><br />of course there are many more words, this is just a basic courseDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-29877066944088647662023-08-19T14:18:46.947+02:002023-08-19T14:18:46.947+02:00Thanks for the quick reply!
Yes, I haven't com...Thanks for the quick reply!<br />Yes, I haven't completely finished your course yet (just going back every now and then to sonsolidate), but living in Zagreb I'm already learning words that are not included in your course. So I feel sometimes a bit lost or unsure when I try to incorporate them in my active use...<br />The kafić in the lesson now has the underline for me, just the one in the exercise does not yet ^^Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-11453215666364241542023-08-19T14:13:17.367+02:002023-08-19T14:13:17.367+02:00I've fixed it. But it's interesting how. F...I've fixed it. But it's interesting how. For some reason, underlines below a normal i just don't work. No matter if you use inline formatting or CSS. But then I took the Ukrainian letter i (which looks identical) and then the underline is shown.<br /><br />Thank you for your report...Daniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-5425147670484364882023-08-19T13:54:19.757+02:002023-08-19T13:54:19.757+02:00This is an error in this chapter. Also, it seems t...This is an error in this chapter. Also, it seems there's a bug in some browsers or maybe even OS's that underlines under i aren't displayed.<br /><br />You can't find info about nib-standard stress anywhere else, unfortunatelyDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-39521421108103671272023-08-19T13:20:19.570+02:002023-08-19T13:20:19.570+02:00Hi Daniel,
I have a question, from a previous vers...Hi Daniel,<br />I have a question, from a previous version (as can be seen in the downloadable pdf file) I learned that the western pronunciation of kafić has the stress on the second syllable, but the current version has the stress in both pronunciation schemes on the first syllable. I tried to look the word up in your core dictionary to verify, but it's not included there.<br />Do you know any other resources that include information about the western stress scheme where I could easily look up such questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-44406326150289443652023-04-18T16:13:18.478+02:002023-04-18T16:13:18.478+02:00Is there a difference between natrag/nazad, and ta...Is there a difference between natrag/nazad, and tamo/onamo? Are they used for different situations, or just a case of regional differences where it doesn't entirely matter which is used?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-8303409825992371742023-03-10T15:46:03.736+01:002023-03-10T15:46:03.736+01:00Yes, something similar, KIND OF pair to biti. In s...Yes, something similar, KIND OF pair to <b>biti</b>. In some constructions, <b>bude</b> must be used, there's no choice.<br /><br />I'd say one in a day. And returning to things you already covered once a while.Daniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-40178714016561773742023-03-10T15:26:04.005+01:002023-03-10T15:26:04.005+01:00Thank you for the clarifications, now I know what ...Thank you for the clarifications, now I know what I'm learning. I'm thankful that a grammatic explanation blog like this exists as there is very few learning material as you pointed out. How many chapters of your course do you think can one process effectively in one day? And I suppose Bude - biti is also a verb pair like the padati and odlaziti?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-85876711186638166032023-03-09T15:10:21.240+01:002023-03-09T15:10:21.240+01:00Also, yes, ode is the pres-3 form of otići, a pair...Also, yes, ode is the pres-3 form of otići, a pair verb of odlaziti. There's a whole chapter about such verb pairs: http://www.easy-croatian.com/2014/11/42.htmlDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-26736514057889088482023-03-09T14:55:10.149+01:002023-03-09T14:55:10.149+01:00The problem is that there's a huge amount of t...The problem is that there's a huge amount of things to explain. This is not English. Besides, very few foreigners learn Croatian or Serbian so these things are poorly researched from a foreigner's point of view.<br /><br />But that holds also for bigger (and very similar) languages such as Russian. I've even seen one web site for foreigners learning Russian saying "verb pairs are actually simple because all Russian children can learn them". What they don't say is that they learn them after a couple of years of constant exposure.<br /><br />The Anki deck was not created by me, someone just copied various things from my site.<br /><br />"Bilo bi vrijeme da padne kiša" is a really complex sentence. Let me parse it for you.<br /><br />First, it's in the conditional form, therefore "bi". The word "vrijeme" is the subject; the word is neuter, therefore neuter form "bilo bi". The section [da padne kiša] is some kind of purpose or desire clause, and they have special use of tenses: only present tense can be used, but of any verbs, both "padati" and "pasti". Since she's not stressing that she wants continuous falling of rain, she used a perfective verb pasti (pada, pao).<br /><br />Note that conditionals are explained only in the chapter 39, a any clauses -- this is an advanced thing -- are not explained before the chapter 50. Meanwhile, you learn how to make sentences "I have two big books and five pens" and even that is far, far from trivial. Because numbers interact with words in ways you probably don't expect.<br /><br />Odlaziti is a plain verb used in simplest sentences, like odlazim sutra, odlazim u 5, and so on. You learn later that it has a pair verb otići, and when to use it.Daniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-72741472381906103612023-03-09T14:34:21.851+01:002023-03-09T14:34:21.851+01:00Okay thanks especially for the padne kiša examples...Okay thanks especially for the padne kiša examples, although your approach of at first not explaining stuff and simplifying things makes sense I don't really like it or at least prefer a little outline of what I can expect for these complex topics (I also never liked that in school, although these things might overwhelm, a short if simplified explanation helps) but this is not your fault as you didn't introduce these conjugations yet (just the flashcard) but the something possibly interesting section is a good approach for people who tend to dive deeper. At the moment I'm starting chapter 10 but in chapter 6 the verb odlaziti was introduced therefore I put my comment here. My grandma just taught me<br />Bilo bi vrijeme da padne kiša.<br />Is that also a possible construction? And is "ode" also a perfective verb? But no worries your approach is good and if a complex topic came up you pointed to further lessons and that you will explain it there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-45047360328367599122023-03-09T14:11:58.008+01:002023-03-09T14:11:58.008+01:00Also, you should use only "pada kiša". &...Also, you should use only "pada kiša". "Padne" is used only in specific constructions, which are also explained gradually. For example in:<br /><br />Kad padne kiša... = when the rain falls (but this is not the exact translation)<br /><br />Ako padne kiša = if the rain falls (again, not exact)<br /><br />Želim da padne kiša = this is an option, you can also say Želim da pada kiša = I want it to rain<br /><br />and so on, there's a list of constructions where these (perfective) verbs can be used, where MUST be used, and where can't be used at all<br /><br />I'm sorry -- Slavic languages have a complex system of verbs...Daniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-40749909103336004452023-03-09T14:07:52.728+01:002023-03-09T14:07:52.728+01:00I think you should skip any verbs that come in pai...I think you should skip any verbs that come in pairs for now. I mean, you're at the chapter #6, you haven't even covered plural forms or past tense. This is really basics. Concentrate on nouns for start, but please first read everything up to the chapter #10 to understand gender, because for some words gender must be learned (not too many).<br /><br />I suggest playing with just a couple of words in the first 20 chapters or so just to get some idea how the grammar works. You cover basic prepositions by the time you reach the chapter #22.<br /><br />You will have to learn a lot. For example, when learning prepositions (words like "on", "in", "by") you will have to learn how the create meaning in combination with various cases: for example, one case might be used in time-related meaning, but with places it could be different, and so on...<br /><br />So, take your time, that's the best advice I can think ofDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-13151430481908372622023-03-09T14:01:59.299+01:002023-03-09T14:01:59.299+01:00Okay Daniel thank you for the quick answer I'l...Okay Daniel thank you for the quick answer I'll try to be patient. It's just a bit hard to remember a flashcard with information I don't really understand, so is "ode" an alternative 3rd person singular conjugation of the verb "odlaziti" and the same with "padne" of padati. But what would it mean if I said Padne kiša instead of pada kiša?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-37546108426199159012023-03-09T13:36:20.217+01:002023-03-09T13:36:20.217+01:00Details are REALLY spread through this site, becau...Details are REALLY spread through this site, because they are explained when needed. For example, this detail with "kiša će padati" (or more common in Serbia "kiša će da pada" is explained in the chapter about the future tense: http://www.easy-croatian.com/2014/11/40.htmlDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-86474021233245027562023-03-09T13:34:23.600+01:002023-03-09T13:34:23.600+01:00Yeah, unfortunately it's a complex topic I int...Yeah, unfortunately it's a complex topic I introduce here: http://www.easy-croatian.com/2014/11/37.html -- verbs in Slavic languages have many shades of meaning often not present in English or e.g. Spanish. Where English has one verb (write) Slavic languages often have a verb pair, one for ongoing, another for completed action. Details are complicated.<br /><br />I explain that gradually. The chapter 37 is just a start. Then there's this chapter <br />http://www.easy-croatian.com/2014/11/68.html and later there are more details... Daniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-68305392361124470392023-03-09T10:47:02.528+01:002023-03-09T10:47:02.528+01:00Zdravo Daniel, Hvala ti puno na Blog, za mene je n...Zdravo Daniel, Hvala ti puno na Blog, za mene je najbolje metode za ućiti. I have a question. While passing through your lessons I'm reviewing a flashcard deck on Anki that somebody made out of your blog. And with some irregular verbs he adds parts of some endings of the conjugation. E.g. the verb "odlaziti (ode, otišao, otišla) but when looking at other flashcards and your lesson I noticed that the 3rd person singular is "odlazi" e.g. Ana odlazi u Ameriku. So I'm wondering what does "ode" mean as it seems to be also the 3rd pers. singular of odlaziti. I experienced the same with "padati ~ pasti (padne, pao)" (it says this on the flashcard. So what does padne mean if I thought the 3rd person singular was pada kiša? Thank you very much in advance<br />Ćao,<br />MilanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-50850974671626116552020-06-05T07:21:43.609+02:002020-06-05T07:21:43.609+02:00Very clear thank you v muchVery clear thank you v muchAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00880814588113163239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-85664552150013126792020-05-30T18:12:39.256+02:002020-05-30T18:12:39.256+02:00The spelling is fakultet.
This is interesting. As...The spelling is <b>fakultet</b>.<br /><br />This is interesting. As there was only one university, with several semi-autonomous departments, people were always talking about departments because they are specific buildings etc. So <b>medicinski fakultet</b> is the department of medicine, Medical school of the university.<br /><br />In everyday speech, <b>sveučilište</b> is very seldom used. It's a rather abstract institution, you'll hear it only in TV news and political discussions.<br /><br />In daily speech, people use <b>fakultet</b> for all university-related things.<br /><br />Is it clearer now? lpDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-11037325476495955962020-05-30T08:02:22.449+02:002020-05-30T08:02:22.449+02:00Hi Daniel..what's the diffference between a fa...Hi Daniel..what's the diffference between a facultet and a sveučilište ? BD<br />žž+Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00880814588113163239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-80373670458258952162020-02-09T10:06:52.793+01:002020-02-09T10:06:52.793+01:00You're welcome! Grammar has to be learned grad...You're welcome! Grammar has to be learned gradually. No way it can be absorbed in a week or month. Read the chapters in their order and you'll get it feature by feature! Don't give up! lpDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-18835823047663034182020-02-09T01:00:21.409+01:002020-02-09T01:00:21.409+01:00Thank you so much for this website. I am finding ...Thank you so much for this website. I am finding it an absolute nightmare trying to wrap my head around the grammar, but at least your explanations clarify some of the rules for me. Ineke Hodalinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06310247471983279045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-76597837809595124792019-10-08T09:31:55.823+02:002019-10-08T09:31:55.823+02:00Thank you! Feel free to ask, comment and suggest a...Thank you! Feel free to ask, comment and suggest anything! LpDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-37436040727085921172019-10-07T15:23:59.222+02:002019-10-07T15:23:59.222+02:00Hi Daniel !
Your blog is amazing. I was searching ...Hi Daniel !<br />Your blog is amazing. I was searching a lot for a book to learn Croatian, but it was the best resource for a person who is self-studying a foreign language. <br />Thank you soooo sooo sooo much! Samihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381840584550184743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891322149855073246.post-82807871412263736302018-08-12T00:44:23.602+02:002018-08-12T00:44:23.602+02:00Your examples are all correct!
I don't think ...Your examples are all correct!<br /><br />I don't think "the" has anything to do with u / na. It's essentially in vs on. You can go to the party, or to the beach, both require na in Croatian.<br /><br />I know I miss some articles: English is NOT my native languageDaniel N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14585410511935134909noreply@blogger.com